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>> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward a secret deal made in secret meetings where nobody will know what's going on, and then people will be told, boy, if you don't vote for this, we'll go over the cliff. well, i think there are a lot worse things than going over a man-made cliff that i think is entirely artificial. i think the reality is the president of the united states has not come forward with any serious spending cuts. what the democrats are proposing is to take the tax increase now and then sometime next year eventually possibly we might have some kind of entitlement reform. that's a bad deal for the american people. >> greta: i d
>> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward...
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i suspect the toll tells a story that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels that will be the case. in fact i'll bet them a case of jack daniels that will be the case. if they're close, as we told you we like asina. and i would be willing to be a buyer of that niche retailer ahead of this quarter because of some merger gains i think we'll hear about. but again only on news of setbacks to the fiscal cliff talks. we're not going to go in and buy anything these days. you'll get some representative congressman, senator come on say you stupid idiot. you bought stock and i'm talking on a microphone. i'm sending the stock market down because there's no pr
i suspect the toll tells a story that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels...
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the fiscal cliff. >> but here's the thing. both sides acknowledge that you're not going to get a deal done without some sort of change to entitlements. specifically medicare. >> well, i'm not so sure what that means when you say it's some sort of change. some sort of structural change to medicare? i'm not sure that has to be on the table. i do think, though, that we do have to have some spending cuts and the president has acknowledged that, as well. but the basis of the problem is you have to have -- the republican party is intransigent about the idea of tax increases and the taxes will grow up after december 31st regardless of what happens. if you don't do anything, they'll go up. so you have to do something. you'll have 98% of the american people who will get a tax cut under president obama's proposal, 97% of american small businesses will get a tax cut. so why not come to a negotiated deal on the things that we agree on and put aside the other things. we don't thesely have to agree on those 2%. let's work on where there is
the fiscal cliff. >> but here's the thing. both sides acknowledge that you're not going to get a deal done without some sort of change to entitlements. specifically medicare. >> well, i'm not so sure what that means when you say it's some sort of change. some sort of structural change to medicare? i'm not sure that has to be on the table. i do think, though, that we do have to have some spending cuts and the president has acknowledged that, as well. but the basis of the problem is...
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also because one thing newt gingrich got right, this so-called fiscal cliff is not a click. it is more like a fiscal bunny hill. therr is automatic tax increases and automatic spending cuts would amount to 250 a year. >> the spending cuts he would put on the table, number two, i am from the school of thought of importance. we should let president obama bought the fiscal cliff and we should stop -- [inaudible] lou: we will be back with the "a-team." i would like to explore this bunny hill thing as a metaphor for the fiscal cliff. it is a great relief for the fiscal cliff. we will be right back. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. lou: we're back with the a-team, angela, i think that president made a huge mistake, pushing the republicans to position where best deal is 1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts, they are not getting that with this administration a
also because one thing newt gingrich got right, this so-called fiscal cliff is not a click. it is more like a fiscal bunny hill. therr is automatic tax increases and automatic spending cuts would amount to 250 a year. >> the spending cuts he would put on the table, number two, i am from the school of thought of importance. we should let president obama bought the fiscal cliff and we should stop -- [inaudible] lou: we will be back with the "a-team." i would like to explore this...
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dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening salvo in these negotiations. early on in this process, both sides appear to show some level of optimism that this would get done. in the last few days and certainly yesterday it just seems like both sides are so far apart, it's not unusual for us to see this kind of posturing and other negotiations, tough negotiations over the last four years or so. you'll see things build up whether it appears that it's going to get done. then they fall apart. in the end it does happen
dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare....
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he said there is no fiscal cliff. it's absolute total nonsense. he's obviously-- >> crazy. >> stephanie: the first guy you want advice from. the guy who shut the government down, do you remember? then they lost in landslides because of that guy there. okay dan in chicago. hi dan. hello dan. dan, dan, going once, how about garth in washington. hi garth. >> caller: hi, stephanie how are you today? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i'm a boy here in washington, and we're going over this cliff, but i think the cliff was passed a long time ago. what is wrong with the flat tax where everybody paid the same. i don't know enough about it, but nobody speaks of that. also-- >> stephanie: you're talking about the steve forbes, he's the one who brings that up every year. i know it sounds simple. a lot of times things that sound simple are not necessarily the best idea. >> it would be well, it would take away all deductions. like owning homes and stuff like that. and it would be really, really unfair to poorer people who can't afford to pay 10% or whate
he said there is no fiscal cliff. it's absolute total nonsense. he's obviously-- >> crazy. >> stephanie: the first guy you want advice from. the guy who shut the government down, do you remember? then they lost in landslides because of that guy there. okay dan in chicago. hi dan. hello dan. dan, dan, going once, how about garth in washington. hi garth. >> caller: hi, stephanie how are you today? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i'm a boy here in washington,...
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cliff. >> one of those people who say let the fiscal cliff happen. >> i can't imagine when it gets down to it that rational people would let it happen. >> one lucky ticket holder may have been captured on tape at the very moment that he realized he hit jackpot. >> he was ecstatic. everybody was checking the see he wasn't seeing things. he wasn't seeing things. it was the right number. >> many people up and down the west coast are keeping a close eye on the triple threat of storms. >> friday is going to be bad. sunday is going to be even worse. >> they don't call them new york's finest for nothing. an officer is famous for buying boots for a homeless man. >> he said, okay, officer, i never had a pair of shoes. >> i know so many cops who have done things like this and it's just not captured. it's nice to see a story like this get out. >> mitt romney has lunch with president obama. it was an awkward moment when the bill came and he only offered to pay 47%. >>> i'm charlie rose with norah o'donnell. gayle king is off. lottery officials in missouri today are going to introduce the holders of
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we are obviously certainly no further down the road to a f fiscal cliff deal. what's the latest and is this posturing, kelly, or is this real? i mean, is this disagreement about kind of laying out the stakes of where everybody stands and what they're willing to give or is it a possibility that we don't get a deal? >> reporter: well, you do hear rumblings, chris, about no deal. but at the same time people are saying there's still some negotiating time left and a bit of optimism. when you heard the tone of what was unfolding yesterday, it was kind of shocking to republicans who would say that the president's offer is so far from a negotiating point that they are surprised not so much that these are the positions that we're in because much has been the president's public rhetoric but in terms of real negotiating they say they were surprised this wasn't the kind of offer that would have happened some weeks ago, meaning right after the election if you want to start there. but now with just four weeks to go they felt the president needed to move further. democrats be
we are obviously certainly no further down the road to a f fiscal cliff deal. what's the latest and is this posturing, kelly, or is this real? i mean, is this disagreement about kind of laying out the stakes of where everybody stands and what they're willing to give or is it a possibility that we don't get a deal? >> reporter: well, you do hear rumblings, chris, about no deal. but at the same time people are saying there's still some negotiating time left and a bit of optimism. when you...
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so much for that brief burst of optimism in washington over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said republicans have taken to screaming at them. if no action is taken by december 31st, 650 billion in cuts to the pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases automatically go into effect. after the meeting, the finger-pointing came quickly. republicans say democrats aren't bringing to the table a plan that include significant cuts to medicare and entitlement programs. >> revenue was only on the table. if they were serious. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> pre
so much for that brief burst of optimism in washington over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said...
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there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is done. it's in a package. it's sitting at our desk. and all that has to happen is for the house to take it up. the only reason they're not taking it up is they want millionaires and billionaires to get their taxes cut, too. and this was a big issue in the campaign, thomas. so why don't we, instead of throwing insults, why don't they just pick up and pass that part as their own republican, tom cole suggested, let's have some good faith here, and we'll hammer out the rest of it. >> so senator, one thing you say about show me the money, if we talk about the lack of structural changes that are out t
there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is...
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that is dynamite. >> for the fiscal cliff. a dance off. >> thanks, simon. >> have a good weekend. >> you too. >>> let's check on energy and commodities. sharon epperson at the ime x this morning. >> not dancing down here carl but they are trying to figure out what is happening here with the u.s. fiscal cliff as well as in europe and in fact it is the situation in europe that really has helped to take the euro to a key level here right around 130 and that has helped some of the industrial commodities like oil and copper which are faring slightly better today. but only slightly. we're really not seeing much movement at all particularly when you look at the price of crude oil with bret crude right around $110 a barrel and wti futures under that 88.50 level. we haven't seen much movement in a whole week's time where we're basically where we were last friday. there has been of course volatility throughout the week. every headline that crosses about the fiscal cliff definitely sends traders fretting one way or another but there hasn
that is dynamite. >> for the fiscal cliff. a dance off. >> thanks, simon. >> have a good weekend. >> you too. >>> let's check on energy and commodities. sharon epperson at the ime x this morning. >> not dancing down here carl but they are trying to figure out what is happening here with the u.s. fiscal cliff as well as in europe and in fact it is the situation in europe that really has helped to take the euro to a key level here right around 130 and that...
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on the "fiscal cliff." the dow over 13,000. pretty modest start to the day today. right now the dow is up by 5 points. nasdaq though falling by 3. s&p down by one. social game maker zynga getting hit hard after announcing it and facebook are changing their partnership. zynga down 7.5%, facebook down slightly. back to you. >> thank you, jason brooks with kcbs and cbsmoneywatch.com. >>> a tale of two uncomfortable pairings. first the san francisco 49ers with two starting quarterbacks. and a power lunch between the president and his former republican rival. >> bet that was fun. phil matier and willie brown join us. mr. mayor, you have had your share of photo ops over the years. what happens when the cameras go away and what do you think they had to say to one another? [ laughter ] >> it certainly wasn't pleasant. and it is not publishable and would you probably only hear it at the book of mormon. [ laughter ] >> come on. you got to be sitting there, you're in the white house, one guy won, the other guy, you know, says nice try and you had to put the slam in there, did
on the "fiscal cliff." the dow over 13,000. pretty modest start to the day today. right now the dow is up by 5 points. nasdaq though falling by 3. s&p down by one. social game maker zynga getting hit hard after announcing it and facebook are changing their partnership. zynga down 7.5%, facebook down slightly. back to you. >> thank you, jason brooks with kcbs and cbsmoneywatch.com. >>> a tale of two uncomfortable pairings. first the san francisco 49ers with two...
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cliff. the two sides traded charges of bad faith as year-end tax hikes and spending cuts moved another day closer. on the face of it there seemed to be little movement today. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> sreenivasan: treasury secretary timothy geithner and legislative chief rob nabors arrived at the capitol this morning, for meetings with congressional leaders. house speaker john boehner also spoke to president obama on the phone last night. he said he wanted to know where the administration would rein in spending, but that he had heard nothing new. >> i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. we sought to find out today what the president is really willing to do. listen, i remain hopeful that productive conversations in the days ahead can be had but the white house has to get serious. >> sreenivasan: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell echoed that complaint. in a statement, he sa
cliff. the two sides traded charges of bad faith as year-end tax hikes and spending cuts moved another day closer. on the face of it there seemed to be little movement today. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> sreenivasan: treasury secretary timothy geithner and legislative chief rob nabors arrived at the capitol this morning, for meetings with congressional leaders. house speaker john boehner also...
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. >>> and it looks like those talks in washington to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff, looming at year's end, will go down to the wire after all. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says that he laughed out loud thursday when he saw president obama's latest plan to avoid a middle-class tax increase. republicans are demanding more spending cuts. >>> and just as millions of americans shop online, rely on their gifts to be shipped by the holidays, the biggest seaports in the country are at a virtual standstill. union workers at the los angeles and long beach terminals are on strike. protesting outsourcing of jobs. 40% of all u.s. imports come through those terminals. negotiations are set to resume today. >>> very unusual scene just south of there, in san diego. an out-of-control truck slammed into a fire hydrant, sending water shooting cinematically 30 feet into the air. like a geyser. the truck actually plowed into a bar, leaving a gaping 11-foot hole in the wall. thankfully, no one was hurt. >>> now, here's diane sawyer, with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> josh, great
. >>> and it looks like those talks in washington to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff, looming at year's end, will go down to the wire after all. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says that he laughed out loud thursday when he saw president obama's latest plan to avoid a middle-class tax increase. republicans are demanding more spending cuts. >>> and just as millions of americans shop online, rely on their gifts to be shipped by the holidays, the biggest seaports in...
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about this fiscal cliff and the media is, as always, in the democrat's corner. that will be my opinion. and mark is next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >> and we welcome a great guest to "varney & company," he's from the media research center. all right, bret. i want to show you three headlines ripped from the news this morning. first off, the headline in the new york times reads g.o.p. balks at white house plan on fiscal cliff. and second, huffington post this mork, surprise, g.o.p. outrage by offer they received weeks ago and from nbc news, the g.o.p. says white house offer on fiscal cliff is unbalanced. bret, tell me i'm wrong here, it seems like the media is setting unto blame the republican for this outrageous offer from th
about this fiscal cliff and the media is, as always, in the democrat's corner. that will be my opinion. and mark is next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer....
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the president is talking about the fiscal cliff. an argument with republicans and how he wants things to go forward and how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the tear- gas to say >> we know how to do that but in washington nothing is easy sell there's gonna be some prolonged negotiations. all of us are going back to get out of our comfort zone is to make that happen. i am willing to do that and i am hopeful that enough members of congress and both parties are willing to do that as well. we can solve these problems. but where the clock is really taking right now is on middle-class taxes. at the end of the year middle-class taxes that are currently in place are set to expire. middle-class tax cuts that are currently in place are set to expire. there are two things that can happen. if congress does not every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here will see your taxes go up when the reverse. i am assuming that does not sound too good to. it sounds like the local you get for
the president is talking about the fiscal cliff. an argument with republicans and how he wants things to go forward and how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the tear- gas to say >> we know how to do that but in washington nothing is easy sell there's gonna be some prolonged negotiations. all of us are going back to get out of our comfort zone is to make that happen. i am willing to do that and i am hopeful that enough members of congress and both parties are willing to do that as well. we can...
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cliff if the markets are going ballistic. it would settle down after a while. host: what is the likelihood we will see changes? guest: they will not necessarily occur at the beginning of congress. there is a good chance that they will step back and do a compromise that involved both parties. for your time. >> robert van order looks at the mortgage debt release act then bradford fitch discusses orientation sessions for senior aides of member and members alike in congress. after that, the artistic self advocacy network on been an autistic adults. -- being an autistic adult. "washington journal" live saturday. president obama called on congress to pass an extension of tax cuts for the middle class, while allowing tax rates to increase for people making more than $250,000 a year. later in the day, house speaker john boehner responded to the presidents comments. you can see both of them starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. next, a look at the fiscal health of the federal housing administration. according to a recent audit
cliff if the markets are going ballistic. it would settle down after a while. host: what is the likelihood we will see changes? guest: they will not necessarily occur at the beginning of congress. there is a good chance that they will step back and do a compromise that involved both parties. for your time. >> robert van order looks at the mortgage debt release act then bradford fitch discusses orientation sessions for senior aides of member and members alike in congress. after that, the...
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the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach and they want us to do it right now. the average middle class family is stairing at a tax increase of $2200 come january 1. we're simply not going to let that happen. if it happens, it will be under the leadership of the speaker representative john boehner. we'll protect the middle class and there will be pain on both side, we know that. but to forge an agreement, we need to republicans to come forward with something. it's time to listen to the american people and that is a valid statement. the vast majority of independents support what the president sent to the republicans in the house. the vast majority of democrats support it. more than 40% of the republicans support this proposal. the republicans need to show us they can help lead this country. >> thanks. we can debate whether the november 6 election was a mandate but i don't think we can debate the basics that it was a work order from the american people to members of congress and to the president to work together and solve the problems. we got the mes
the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach and they want us to do it right now. the average middle class family is stairing at a tax increase of $2200 come january 1. we're simply not going to let that happen. if it happens, it will be under the leadership of the speaker representative john boehner. we'll protect the middle class and there will be pain on both side, we know that. but to forge an agreement, we need to republicans to come forward with...
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our theme song today is will we get a fiscal cliff deal done? and i appreciate the music and hopefully we'll hear some sweet music from congress about this. getting down to the wire, guys. >> wow. i don't even know where to start. >> don't stop. keep going. >> please stop. please stop. >> i had a lot of sugared cereal for breakfast this morning. >> references -- he's great is what he is. >> a deejay? you're a deejay? >> a guy throwing around references coming off wilkos like that is aok can me. >> movie anchorman today, sullivan. >> stop it. >> so, brian sullivan international, what exactly does san diego mean in german and, secondly -- >> it's an ancient german word. >> my god. >> and, secondly, brian sullivan international, what do the futures look like right now based on the distressing opening salvo yesterday between tim geithner and republican leaders? >> mika can't hide behind the book. they don't look like much. they're flat to slightly down. everybody is in wait-and-see mode here. there's a story out that mitch mcconnell burst out laughi
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again, we don't think social security should be on the table in these fiscal cliff discussions. not the driver of the deficit, and further down the line, we think it's important to not mess with the age or switch to the chain c.p.i. or any other cuts that would affect beneficiaries. mr. scott: would the gentlelady yield? ms. moore: i yield. mr. scott: people caulk about increasing the age of social security or cost of living increase, the first question is whether or not you're going to cut social security. and then if you decide to cut social security, the different -- there are different ways to have doing it. some more painful than others. but the first question is, are you cutting social security? but part of the question is, why? if none of the tax cuts get extended, at this point you have more money than you need on the table system of the only reason you're even discussing a cut in social security is because you want to extend the tax cut. now i think most people when they're faced with the choice, do you want social security to be a piggy bank every time we're running sh
again, we don't think social security should be on the table in these fiscal cliff discussions. not the driver of the deficit, and further down the line, we think it's important to not mess with the age or switch to the chain c.p.i. or any other cuts that would affect beneficiaries. mr. scott: would the gentlelady yield? ms. moore: i yield. mr. scott: people caulk about increasing the age of social security or cost of living increase, the first question is whether or not you're going to cut...